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Discussion for Today
[edit]- This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025_April_6
April 6
[edit]NEW NOMINATIONS
[edit]Category:16th-century BC women regents
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: merge, isolated century category, not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:13, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose Regents and political figures have no place in a "women" category. Dimadick (talk) 11:17, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Do you mean you want to delete the entire women regents tree? I guess that would require a separate discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:12, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- The opposite. Mixing rulers and civilians in a single category is like mixing apples with dinosaurs. Dimadick (talk) 16:40, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- I do not understand what you mean. There are hardly any articles about ordinary civilians, neither in the nominated category nor in the target. It is far too ancient history for that. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:47, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- The opposite. Mixing rulers and civilians in a single category is like mixing apples with dinosaurs. Dimadick (talk) 16:40, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- Do you mean you want to delete the entire women regents tree? I guess that would require a separate discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:12, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:01, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
Disestablishments in Tonga
[edit]- Propose deleting Category:Disestablishments in Tonga by year
- Propose merging Category:1865 disestablishments in Tonga to Category:Disestablishments in Tonga and Category:1865 disestablishments in Oceania
- Propose merging Category:2006 disestablishments in Tonga to Category:Disestablishments in Tonga and Category:2006 disestablishments in Oceania
- Propose merging Category:2009 disestablishments in Tonga to Category:Disestablishments in Tonga and Category:2009 disestablishments in Oceania
- Propose merging Category:2013 disestablishments in Tonga to Category:Disestablishments in Tonga and Category:2013 disestablishments in Oceania
- Propose deleting Category:Disestablishments in Tonga by decade
- Propose merging Category:1700s disestablishments in Tonga to Category:Disestablishments in Tonga and Category:1700s disestablishments
- Propose deleting Category:1860s disestablishments in Tonga
- Propose deleting Category:2000s disestablishments in Tonga
- Propose deleting Category:2010s disestablishments in Tonga
- Propose deleting Category:Disestablishments in Tonga by century
- Propose deleting Category:18th-century disestablishments in Tonga
- Propose deleting Category:19th-century disestablishments in Tonga
- Propose deleting Category:21st-century disestablishments in Tonga
- Propose deleting Category:Disestablishments in Tonga by millennium
- Propose deleting Category:2nd-millennium disestablishments in Tonga
- Propose deleting Category:3rd-millennium disestablishments in Tonga
- Propose deleting Category:1700s in Oceania
- Propose deleting Category:1700s disestablishments in Oceania
- Propose deleting Category:1700s in Tonga
- Propose deleting Category:1865 in Tonga
- Propose deleting Category:18th century in Tonga
- Nominator's rationale: There are only 4 articles in the entire Category:Disestablishments in Tonga tree. Not useful to diffuse by any time period. WP:OCYEAR/WP:NARROW. –Aidan721 (talk) 22:19, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:01, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Keep decades in C21, keep centuries and millenia. I've added the other 5 defunct airline articles and 4 other items, making 13 pages categorised. No objection to upmerging the other categories (1700s, 1860s and all years), although I would not have bothered doing this. – Fayenatic London 10:04, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Note: I have created Category:2020s disestablishments in Tonga and Category:20th-century disestablishments in Tonga, which should be treated in line with the others according to the outcome of this discussion. – Fayenatic London 11:50, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on FL's alternative proposal?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:39, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Visual Studio Code - Open Source distributions
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Please suggest a better destination than my tentative place-holder. The original contains the always-invalid ⟨ - ⟩. Correcting the hyphen-minus to an en dash still leaves the problem that the name is impossible to use in running text without confusion because the dash appears to function within the surrounding sentence rather than separate elements within the name, and my tentative suggestion of an unspaced en dash, while compatible with the MoS, appears to connect Code and Open rather than separate the phrases that contain them. Stephan Leeds (talk) 01:38, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Merge to Category:Free software distributions. Not useful. –Aidan721 (talk) 02:26, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Aidan721 @Marcocapelle Can you explain why you said it doesn't make sense? I created this category for the fork of VSCode / code-oss (whatever you call it). 内存溢出的猫 (talk) 09:07, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- There are only two articles in the category, they can be interlinked directly. We do not need a category for that. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:24, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle There are many VSCode forks now, but some of them don't have entries on the English Wikipedia. Does the category require a minimum number of entries? Will they be added back when more entries are available in the future? 内存溢出的猫 (talk) 07:20, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- There are only two articles in the category, they can be interlinked directly. We do not need a category for that. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:24, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Aidan721 @Marcocapelle Can you explain why you said it doesn't make sense? I created this category for the fork of VSCode / code-oss (whatever you call it). 内存溢出的猫 (talk) 09:07, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per Aidan721. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:11, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Merge? Not seeing objections to the rename if kept.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:29, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Pre-1606 contact with Australia
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: As named, the category violates WP:OCMISC for an arbitrary cut-off. The vast majority of the articles are related to the Theory of the Portuguese discovery of Australia so rename to Category:Theory of the Portuguese discovery of Australia making Theory of the Portuguese discovery of Australia the main article and purge the few articles that are not relevant to the new topic. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:41, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Keep or choose a new name, perhaps Category:Pre-Janszoon contact with Australia or Category:Pre-Dutch contact with Australia. Of the 13 pages in the category, 6 or 7 are related to the Theory of the Portuguese discovery of Australia while 6 or 7 refer to contact with Javanese, Makassar, Chinese, Egyptian, or Peruvian voyagers. Goustien (talk) 03:24, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Rename, subjective cutoff. Move the articles not related to the Portuguese to parent Category:History of Australia before 1788. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:52, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Rename - The current title is too broad. In this case, it needs to be more specific. Dympies (talk) 02:35, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: No clear agreement on rename target.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:07, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Qin dynasty in fiction
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Qin dynasty in fiction to Category:Qin dynasty
- Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory and one article. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:05, 7 March 2025 (UTC)
- There's a subcategory with more of the same. Seems like that should be merged into this instead. -- Beland (talk) 07:13, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Beland (talk) 07:22, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- The subcategory is not more of the same. The article is about a fictional character, the subcategory about fictional works. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:33, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- The subcategory is Category:Works set in the Qin dynasty and contains fictional works about the Qin dynasty sorted by medium. The nominated category contains one article about a fictionalized opera. I don't see how that's not a "work set in the Qin dynasty". It does not make sense to put the fictionalized The First Emperor directly in Category:Qin dynasty; it should be in the fiction subcategory. -- Beland (talk) 18:09, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Beland: I think you are looking at the wrong category. The article I was referring to is Lady Meng Jiang which is not about an opera but about a main character in fiction. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:19, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- And the article Lady Meng Jiang appears to be about the folk tale which apparently has had several settings (during different dynasties). Perhaps that specific article should be instead moved to Category:Works set in Imperial China, or possibly even better: Category:Chinese folklore. - jc37 23:55, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry, yes, both The First Emperor and Lady Meng Jiang are fictional works which do not belong in the main Qin dynasty category. -- Beland (talk) 02:38, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- And the article Lady Meng Jiang appears to be about the folk tale which apparently has had several settings (during different dynasties). Perhaps that specific article should be instead moved to Category:Works set in Imperial China, or possibly even better: Category:Chinese folklore. - jc37 23:55, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Beland: I think you are looking at the wrong category. The article I was referring to is Lady Meng Jiang which is not about an opera but about a main character in fiction. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:19, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:30, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Relations of Japan and its former colonies
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: delete, Korea was annexed by Japan rather than a colony (or initially it was a protectorate). Marcocapelle (talk) 21:38, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- This and the two nominations below are follow-up on this earlier discussion. @An anonymous username, not my real name, Seefooddiet, Sm8900, HouseBlaster, and Voorts: pinging contributors to that discussion. Creator of the categories has already been notified. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:52, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- I am not sure on whether all individual instances of Japan's conquests can be termed colonialism, but shouldn't the fact that the overall phenomenon is called the Japanese colonial empire mean something? Even if the category has to be renamed, it seems thematically and chronologically in line with the similar categories pertaining to European colonizers. GreekApple123 (talk) 22:07, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:29, 6 April 2025 (UTC)