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March 9

Question about stats

Is there any list of most viewed articles of poor quality (like below C-class)? Grumpylawnchair (talk) 03:23, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

@Grumpylawnchair: Not that I know of, but if something like that exists the people over at WP:VPT would know about it, maybe ask over there. See Wikipedia:Statistics#Page_views. Polygnotus (talk) 12:52, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

@Polygnotus: Thank you! Regards, Grumpylawnchair (talk) 14:22, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

@Polygnotus: Btw, I found what I was looking for: User:DataflowBot/output/Popular low quality articles (id-2) Grumpylawnchair (talk) 21:47, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

Excellent, thank you! Bookmarked. Polygnotus (talk) 04:18, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

Citations for dead links

I want to know how to do a web cite to a URL that I know is dead and only in the web archive. As best I can tell, Wikipedia requires a URL, but it also requires that the URL be distinct from the ArchiveURL. Dr. Conspiracy (talk) 04:16, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

Kwdavids ("Dr. Conspiracy"), here is a Wayback Machine scrape from 2008 of the first of three web pages that add up to a 1950 article from Time. As I view the page (Firefox, on a computer), at the very top (by which I mean the very top of the page, not the window) I see "http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0%2C9171%2C812777-1%2C00.html". That's what you're after, unless I misunderstand you. (I could also have derived it by chopping off what's at the front of the longer, Wayback Machine URL.) -- Hoary (talk) 08:15, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi, @Kwdavids (I wish people wouldn't use signatures that completely fail to match their usernames: it makes it harder to reply).

Assuming you are using a citation template such as {{cite web}}, you should still give the original URL in url =, but also specify

url-status = dead and

archive-url =

Hope that helps. ColinFine (talk) 11:42, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

Musk derangement syndrome - article creation

Recently we've seen the rise of the term "Trump derangement syndrome(TDS)", which returned to prominence during the 2024 U.S. presidential elections and present times. Later, I got informed about a new type of term; namely the 'Musk derangement syndrome'. If you're already well-versed with TDS, you can imagine how little difference it really is to this one. Anywho, I'll briefly explain it: MDS is essentially a way the political right (Republicans) have described democrats who are irrationally reactionary to Musk, his antics and associates. It was originally coined in 2022, as far as I know, but its use has been sparse, so I'm doubting of whether or not this article is relevant or should exist.

I was informed through social media (like Youtube), which generally isn't a reliable nor relevant source to base articles on, but I did some research and found further instances of the term being used (including by government officials, for commercial uses "Etsy" and on news platforms), and as aforementioned, in 2022.

I've based the article heavily on the TDS, following a similar format.

Well, I wonder if anyone can help me out finishing the article for submission, alongside finding more citations for the text. If there's a lack of sources then the article won't be worked on further, instead I'll be waiting for the phrase to become more prominent, if it does. I also need people who are politically diverse to ensure the page is transparent and neutral, up to Wikipedia's standards, you know. But please do not delete anything without explanation and without discussing it on the talk page. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you. Pradedovići (talk) 17:11, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

Why not just submit it, Pradedovići? -- Hoary (talk) 22:38, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

I have, but I still think the article may be lacking in some areas, which is why I asked for help with those issues. Pradedovići (talk) 07:17, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

Pradedovići, I suggest that you read the WP:NEOLOGISM section of Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Cullen328 (talk) 07:20, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

March 10

Unsure how to proceed with reporting potential vandalism

Recently, on the Sao Paulo page, there has been an IP user who may be vandalizing the page with different IP addresses. I checked Sao Paulo's history and there have been a few recent edits by some IPs that seem to publish edits under the summary "fixed typo" but actually make some strange edits that ruin the entire page. The most recent happened roughly 45-60 minutes ago and basically blanked the entire page without necessary removing its content. I'm aware of reporting vandals with administrators, but as this is across various IPs and seemingly hasn't been reported as of yet, I'm unsure how I should handle this. The only idea I have as of now, as it seems it has been happening frequently with this page, is extend protecting it, but I'm not sure how to do that. Any advice? SonOfYoutubers (talk) 00:46, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

@SonOfYoutubers You can request page protection at WP:RFPP. Ultraodan (talk) 03:05, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! SonOfYoutubers (talk) 03:21, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

Harriet Martineau

Please repair reference 12 - I am unable do so and i am confused, thank you. Srbernadette (talk) 02:43, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

@Srbernadette: This is because, once again, you introduced an extra digit into the |date= parameter. Someone else has fixed it, but I hope that moving forward you will be extra careful when adding dates. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:39, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

Srbernadette, on 12 October, Tenryuu suggested that "you should consider writing down what other editors have been saying so that you have a 'common mistakes made' note that you can reference to the side of whatever device you're using." On 25 October, I suggested that you edited while logged on (as Srbernadette), that on your user page (of course User:Srbernadette), you created and maintained a list of links you find useful (Template:Cite web#Date would be among these), and that whenever stuck, you started by consulting the relevant item(s) in your list of useful links. You made no comment on either suggestion; perhaps they didn't interest you. -- Hoary (talk) 07:12, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

how to appeal page restriction

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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I am trying to initiate an appeal to a page restriction that falls under the Palestine/Israel conflict, the talk page for Gaza Genocide, which is extended-confirmed protected. I lodged my appeal at ArbCom, but was told this was inappropriate, but the alternate pages to which I was directed are filled with text, much of which is crossed out, and I cannot make heads or tails of them. Would you please tell me clearly on which page I should lodge my appeal? Thank you! Kenfree (talk) 03:38, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi Kenfree. Looking at your edits, I don't see where you lodged your appeal at ArbCom. Could you link to that edit of yours so we can see what advice you were given there? DMacks (talk) 04:57, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

DMacks, the edits in question were made at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection/Decrease, and Kenfree's request was denied. That is not ArbCom, by the way. Cullen328 (talk) 05:33, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Running InternetArchiveBot on a really big page?

How do I run InternetArchiveBot with "Add archives to all non-dead references" turned on without timing out? Every time I try to run the bot on 2024–present Serbian anti-corruption protests page, I get timed out. The page has more than 700 references. No.cilepogača (talk) 13:15, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

I know nothing about InternetArchiveBot, No.cilepogača, and only comment here because hours have passed since you asked and nobody else has commented. What I'd do is copy the source to a window of my preferred text editor (Geany, as it happens; but any decent text editor should work), and chop the file into perhaps five chunks of what look like a similar size. (No need to measure them.) Now, for each of the five: (i) cut the chunk from your text editor and paste it into your sandbox, (ii) run InternetArchiveBot on the content of your sandbox, (iii) cut the chunk from your sandbox and paste it into your text editor window. Once you've finished that, copy the whole thing from your text editor window, paste it into 2024–present Serbian anti-corruption protests (of course replacing what was already there), preview, and if it seems OK, "publish". Done. ¶ Incidentally, are all those references needed? I notice that an assertion as humdrum as "On 1 February, Madonna supported the students on Instagram" comes with five references. -- Hoary (talk) 11:55, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

March 11

Manage connected applications

I was surprised to see "CK's audio creator [1.0] Publisher: Commander Keane" at Special:OAuthManageMyGrants. I have never worked with OAuth and never heard of this tool. Maybe it is related to six years ago when I did many audio recordings with code at en:wikt:User:Commander Keane/Audio workflow. Perhaps I was messing around with OAuth at some stage. The naming "CK's audio creator" sounds too sophisticated for something I would come up with though. Is there a way to track down why or how this was added? Other items on the special page include "Wikimedia Commons Query Service [1.0]" and "Earwig's Copyvio Detector [1.0]", which make sense. Commander Keane (talk) 09:01, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

@Commander Keane Each item on the list at that page has the option to revoke your approval. My list doesn't mention CK's audio creator, so it can't be vital. I suggest you revoke the permission: the worst that can happen is that you will have to re-authorise it again if you needed it in future. If you want to delve further into that particular tool, you'll need to ask on the talk page of Help:OAuth at mediawiki. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:19, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Page move reverting check up

I just reverted a page move for I believe the first time. Will someone please check if I forgot anything or messed it up? It was the article and the talk page: [1] Thank you in advance. Rockfang (talk) 10:12, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Rockfang looks good to me (and phone was miscapitalised as well as being unnecessary Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:46, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Template issues

Hi all, I'm working on a new draft, and am attempting to use Template:Infobox ship class overview for the lead. The template, for some reason, does not want to work. It displays it in a weird form as if it is text, and continues to try and kidnap (for lack of a better term) the lead text below it. I've done some poking around and am unable to find a solution, hence why I am asking here. Thank you in advance. -Emily (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 12:38, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

@PhoenixCaelestis: it seems {{Infobox ship class overview}} should be part of {{Infobox ship}} so I have added the latter and it seems to work. Some of what I have added is probably redundant. TSventon (talk) 12:51, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

{{Infobox ship}} is not supported by the WP:SHIPS community. What you added to OP's sandbox is the supported infobox form. Yeah, that form is peculiar, but is inherently flexible. There was a TfD to replace the wikitable/subtemplates with a single template that uses Module:Infobox. The result is that the templates languish in the TfD holding cell.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 13:09, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Thank you both, @TSventon and @Trappist the monk. I will update the parameters from here. Thanks for solving my issue! -Emily (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 14:16, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Something broke map overlays in Infoboxes

Dear Helpdesk -

Some recent change (last few days) broke map overlays in Infoboxes. In 2020 I wrote an article that uses an overlay on a map in an Infobox to outline an area. As of a few days ago, the outline is rendered but is shifted to N of where it should be on the Infobox map. The same outline's position is correct on other maps in the article that aren't in an infobox. Who should I alert to report the problem? (There have been no changes to the map data since 2020.) Osoraku (talk) 18:32, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Osoraku. In the first instance, bring it up at WP:VPT. ColinFine (talk) 18:40, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Image in wrong place

I need help here. SergeWoodzing (talk) 19:26, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi SergeWoodzing. I fixed it with {{Stack}}.[2] PrimeHunter (talk) 19:47, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! SergeWoodzing (talk) 19:50, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Re-naming a WikiSubProject

If it was mooted to rename a sub wikiproject, what effect would this have on articles that carry the former project name in the box at the head of their talk pages? I can't find any advice on this. Tony Holkham (Talk) 21:44, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

@Tony Holkham: The box is probably made by a WikiProject template which can be edited to display the new name on all the talk pages. We can say more if you name the sub project. It's best to be specifc in questions. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:38, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter - Thanks for that. I didn't name the sub project because it is only a suggestion so far, but it is the RNLI Task Force subProject of the Water Sports Project - see here Tony Holkham (Talk) 22:42, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

@Tony Holkham: {{WikiProject Water sports}} would be edited to produce something else. A new parameter name might be added instead of {{WikiProject Water sports|RNLI=yes}} but RNLI would probably be kept as an alias so talk pages which use it wouldn't have to be edited. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:17, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter - OK, thanks. One of us will come back to this query if there is support for the change. Cheers, Tony Holkham (Talk) 23:23, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

What happened to WP:AFI?

Not much activity, nominations open for multiple years. Anyone here noticed? RanDom 404 (talk) 22:14, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

If I had ever heard of Wikipedia:Articles for improvement, RanDom 404, then I later forgot about it. Now that I do notice it, I'm not at all surprised to learn that it's moribund. -- Hoary (talk) 01:32, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

Wouldn't this be basically all articles that are worth keeping anyway? It's hard to imagine there being articles that are perfect, articles for keeping mediocre, or articles for making worse. Musiconeologist (talk) 03:02, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

March 12

Merging

If I want to merge two articles (in this case because an AfD closed with that recommendation) in the old days I would simply have copied-and-pasted the content of one article into an appropriate place in the other, turned the first article into a redirect to the second, then edited the second article appropriately to make sense of the new content. Is there now anything different to be done on a technical level? Or does the method I've just described still work appropriately? AndyJones (talk) 13:59, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

Broadly, yes, @AndyJones. See WP:PROMERGE for the details. ColinFine (talk) 14:19, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

Anna Leonowens - plagiarism question

Seeking feedback on this post about plagiarism... Drew Stanley (talk) 14:30, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

Drew Stanley I have responded there. TSventon (talk) 14:58, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

Immaculate Heart High School (Los Angeles)

I have added a file of an photograph of the old school It is way too big - please assist. Sorry and thanks Srbernadette (talk) 22:51, 12 March 2025 (UTC)